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Star quarterbacks Marshyl Rothman and L.J. Thomas can't figure out why colleges aren't knocking
Thursday, October 15, 2009
by
Jason Lieser
Marshyl Rothman (left) and L.J. Thomas. (Post photos)
Jupiter Christian's Marshyl Rothman and Glades Central's L.J. Thomas are the only ones who truly understand how the other feels.
They will face each other Friday night in Belle Glade with Rothman looking for a nearly impossible upset and Thomas defending the Raiders' spot as the No. 1 team in the area. Their styles are opposite Thomas stands in the pocket and fires arching missiles downfield; Rothman rolls out frenetically but they have plenty in common.
Last season, Thomas led all players in passing yards and threw 26 touchdowns before breaking his collarbone in the Muck Bowl. Rothman was the area's most accurate passer, an all-state selection and led Jupiter Christian to its second straight state title.
Over the past three seasons, they are a combined 48-2 as starters.
And nobody wants them.
Despite their gaudy résumés, which include impressive starts to this season, neither of these seniors has a college scholarship offer.
"The guys making these decisions cannot be that blind," Glades Central coach Jessie Hester said. "This type of talent is floating out there and nobody's jumping on it?"
Hester's counterpart, Bill Powers, is equally confused.
"I couldn't tell you why L.J. doesn't have any offers," he said. "There are quarterbacks in this area that have offers that I don't think are half the football player he is. Marshyl is better than a lot of kids that have offers, too."
The forgotten man
After a recent Glades Central practice, a group of Raiders stood near the south end of their practice field and chattered excitedly about college visits. Running back Antwon Chisholm, an Oklahoma State commit, mentioned one possible trip and suggested Thomas join him.
Thomas mumbled something about not being invited by the school and walked away dejectedly.
"Sometimes I feel left out because I feel like I deserve a scholarship, too," Thomas said.
He has had conversations with a few schools, including West Virginia, Central Michigan, Florida International and Middle Tennessee State, but none have made offers.
This season, Thomas has completed 53.8 percent of his passes for 1,355 yards and 16 touchdowns against two interceptions.
He is 6-foot-1, 190 pounds and throws a football 50 yards on one knee. Some colleges have told him he needs to improve his throwing mechanics. Others have said he needs to do better at checking down and making crisp passes underneath.
Hester also believes colleges are sending an indirect message that Thomas contributes little to an offense that averages 38 points per game. At least three of his current receivers have BCS school offers and last year he had Rantavious Wooten, who is now at Georgia.
"Not anyone could do this," Thomas said. "Without the teacher the quarterback's like the teacher of the offense the offense doesn't click."
Runner and a passer
Rothman would like to believe he will change minds if he plays well against Glades Central (6-0), but even if the Eagles (5-1, No. 6 Post) pull off a stunner, he does not expect to his cell phone to buzz.
"I've figured it out," he said, tightening his jaw. "There's no one that's really chomping at the bit for me and it's tough."
At 5-foot-8 1/2 and 170 pounds, Rothman is unlikely to pass the eye test for any position but kicker. He also has the Brett Favre gene that makes quarterbacks forsake the obvious play in favor of high-risk, high-reward opportunities.
However, he is an elusive runner who sprints the 40-yard dash in 4.61 seconds and a proven winner. Rothman helped propel the Eagles to 32 straight wins before losing last week.
Only Thomas and Boca Raton's Eddie Sullivan threw for more touchdowns than Rothman's 21 last season, and this year he has completed 56.6 percent of his passes for 973 yards and 10 TDs with just one interception. He also has ran for 339 yards with eight touchdowns.
Rothman is routinely among the top performers at quarterback camps and as a junior he carried Jupiter Christian to second place in the adidas national 7-on-7 tournament.
"That's kind of surprising that they can't see that," Powers said. "I don't expect 100 teams to go after him, but some of these teams have quarterbacks close to the same height, and they're not even calling."
A dozen or so colleges have shown interest in Rothman, including Villanova, Fordham, Wofford and Lehigh, but none have offered.
Coaches are still confident
Both Thomas and Rothman can elevate their status and gain exposure by extending their senior seasons into December.
Hester is confident the offers will come for Thomas once his recent game films the latest of which shows him ripping Boca Raton for 355 yards and four touchdown passes circulate among recruiters.
Likewise, Powers believes Rothman and Thomas won't be ignored.
"If they continue to win, you hope that somebody will eventually take a chance on them, and I think somebody will," Bill Powers said. "You're on a much bigger stage as the year goes on. That's when coaches get a chance to see what you actually do."
Note: For more on Rothman and Thomas, check out PalmBeachPost.com's High School Buzz blog.
User Comments:
Muck stepper commented on October 15, 2009 at 9:06 p.m.: flag
Coming from an alum LJ keep your head up and finish the season out not worrying about the scouts and colleges until the season over cause a lot of good players are choose at the last minute so keep your head up and win state. 3 time champ back to back
ladybluedevils commented on October 15, 2009 at 9:52 p.m.: flag
I don't understand it either. Both Quarterbacks are extremely talented, so what with the hold up? It seems as if big college schools don't take these florida quarterbacks that seriously. I agree with you MuckStepper....L.J. along with Mark just need to keep playing great football, and keep their heads up. In the end, i certainly know that someone will notice them...they're work will not go in vain. Keep your head up guys...and L.J We'll (Pahokee) see you in the Muck Bowl! ;-p
ladybluedevils commented on October 15, 2009 at 9:56 p.m.: flag
Correction: I mean Marshyl...not Mark Sorry! Keep your head up guys, :-)
alwaysaraider commented on October 15, 2009 at 10:25 p.m.: flag
Unfortunately for these 2 great QB's they are in similar but different situations.... Marshyl doesn't fit the "prototype" which is silly in my opinion. He is only like 5"7 so being that small you have to posess something special physically....Like 4.2 speed or a cannon arm. He will end up somewhere playing ball though. LJ suffers from playing with a great group of offensive weapons. I recently read that he wouldn't be as good if he were at Atlantic or Boca. LJ didnt transfer here, he is from here so why the hell would that even be a speculation? What people don't know is that LJ sometimes calls the offensive plays, is very good at reading a defense, and knows what every player on the field is supposed to do on every play all the way down to the linemen. The last thing that you cannot measure that I KNOW that LJ has is a huge heart. I don't know Rothman personally so I don't know about his. The sideline coaches in Belle Glade seem to not like when LJ throws the deep ball but they are the first ones cheering when he completes one. This kid leads 561 in almost every passing category, the only one he doesnt lead in is completion % and thats because Jupiter Christian throws the short out pass damn near every down.
Mr. Football commented on October 16, 2009 at 12:15 a.m.: flag
i can't say for the J.C's quaterback, but its kind of tough to have schools knocking at your door with offers, when the head coach tell scouts that leron thomas is not a division 1 quaterback. it funny how we seem to forget thats what you told a few scouts earlier this year jessie hester..............Ms. diane should have allow leron to transfer.
glades commented on October 16, 2009 at 9:29 a.m.: flag
I ALSO HEARD THAT JESSIE SAID THIS ABOUT LJ....I HEARD IT FROM PLAYERS ON THE TEAM THAT HE DID NOT WANT LJ TO PLAY MAJOR DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL....SO IF ITS TRUE SHAME ON YOU JESSIE THIS IS OUR BEST PLAYER BECAUSE THE BACK UP IS NO WHERE NEAR LJ! GET THIS KID SOME OFFERS....WHEN SNEAD AND THE CREW WAS THERE WE WERE IN HIS OFFICE MAKING SURE WE WERE HEARD ABOUT....AND LAST THING BECAUSE I PLAYED WAS A STARTER FOR 3 YEARS AND I AINT GET AN OFFER UNTIL THE WEEK BEFORE MUCK BOWL SO LJ KEEP SHINING GOOD TALENT DONT GET LOOKED OVER! DONT COUNT ON THE COACHE'S TO DO IT SEND OUT YOUR OWN TAPES MAKE THEM CALLS YOUR SELF ITS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DO ON YOUR OWN! BECAUSE COACHES WILL LIE TO GET YOU OUT THEY FACE......SO JUST BE ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS! GOOD LUCK LJ I KNOW A MAJOR SCHOLL WILL PICK YOU UP KEEP BALLIN BRA!
alwaysaraider commented on October 16, 2009 at 10:28 a.m.: flag
Glades, Let me be the first to say that statement about Jet was not true.... Jet was talking to Marshall University I think it was and they asked about LJ and he told them that they probably wouldn't be able to get LJ. By saying that he was saying that LJ probably would be getting far more high profile offers. There was probably was like 2 players in the room when he made the statement and they must have misinterpreted what he was saying. By the way, scouts do not take a coaches word as a deciding factor on signing a kid or not... they use game film.
LynnV commented on October 16, 2009 at 2:37 p.m.: flag
Thanks clarifying some things alwaysaraider. Being a parent of 2 division I collegiate athletes there are several things that scouts consider while recruiting. My thought is that there really should be some sort of seminar during an athlete's freshman year of high school letting them know all of what being recruited entails. Un-official visits, official visits, knowing that you have to APPLY to the school you choose to sign with, time management, budgeting money, grades, NCAA eligibility, injuries, travel, being away from home and much more.
Much more than getting your picture in the paper on signing day!!!
South Florida Next Level Recruiting commented on October 16, 2009 at 3:08 p.m.: flag
LynnV plesase visit my website www.sfnlr.com
South Florida Next Level Recruiting commented on October 16, 2009 at 3:13 p.m.: flag
I having seen both of these quarterbacks play in person I was blowing away by both of them and was shock to found out neither one of them have no any offers. But Iām hearing this more and more as I travel around Palm Beach County. These two kids will found a home when the recruiters return to Palm Beach County next month. Here is a small list of kids that are having a great senior year but have no offers either.
1. Demaris Freeman S/WR 6ā1 180 Park Vista
2. Justin Haig K 5ā10 American Heritage Very strong leg 20 for 23 touch backs 22 for 22 xps
3. Vincent Vasquez 6ā0 215 Atlantic High School Best LB in the county
LynnV commented on October 19, 2009 at 12:25 p.m.: flag
Thanks South Florida Next Level Recruiting. I have a senior and a sophomore already at division I schools. Their father and I asked several tough questions from the get go. You should contact the AD's at every high school in the area with your website.
I just have read so many stories of some of these kids who don't have a clue and my children have known some who quit after their freshman year because they can't cut it.
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